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		<title>Comment on ${stupid-syscall-02(*)-joke-here} by happy_bunny</title>
		<link>http://debugmo.de/2010/07/stupid-syscall-02-joke-here/comment-page-1/#comment-8586</link>
		<dc:creator>happy_bunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 15:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations

everytime she smiles it will melt your heart ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations</p>
<p>everytime she smiles it will melt your heart ;-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s Inside, Part III: TP-Link TL-SG1008D by Bebert</title>
		<link>http://debugmo.de/2010/01/whats-inside-part-3-tp-link-tl-sf1008d/comment-page-1/#comment-8346</link>
		<dc:creator>Bebert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, my TL-SG1008D seems to be different : no Broadcom chipset but two realtek IC : RTL8368S and RTL8214

My TL-SG1008D is rev 1.1 (printed on the pcb board).

The eeprom is a CSI 24C08. I dumped it but I don&#039;t talk the hexa.

http://pastebin.ca/1909504</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, my TL-SG1008D seems to be different : no Broadcom chipset but two realtek IC : RTL8368S and RTL8214</p>
<p>My TL-SG1008D is rev 1.1 (printed on the pcb board).</p>
<p>The eeprom is a CSI 24C08. I dumped it but I don&#8217;t talk the hexa.</p>
<p><a href="http://pastebin.ca/1909504" rel="nofollow">http://pastebin.ca/1909504</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on What&#8217;s Inside, Part III: TP-Link TL-SG1008D by Bebert</title>
		<link>http://debugmo.de/2010/01/whats-inside-part-3-tp-link-tl-sf1008d/comment-page-1/#comment-8340</link>
		<dc:creator>Bebert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I ordered a TL-SG1008D. I unsoldered the eeprom and now I am stuck at dumping. I only have an arduino (my bus pirate is coming). My goal is to add a small web interface to enable/disable all options of the ethernet chipset (vlan, qos ...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I ordered a TL-SG1008D. I unsoldered the eeprom and now I am stuck at dumping. I only have an arduino (my bus pirate is coming). My goal is to add a small web interface to enable/disable all options of the ethernet chipset (vlan, qos &#8230;)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scope pr0n by tmbinc</title>
		<link>http://debugmo.de/2010/07/scope-pr0n/comment-page-1/#comment-8333</link>
		<dc:creator>tmbinc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations toxic, you hit it right on the head!

In fact, the picture above shows:

Green trace: HF data coming from the laser pickup.
Yellow trace: Recovered clock
Blue trace: Recovered data

The data is from a Datel disc (&quot;ultimate cheatcodes&quot;) and shows the &quot;laser mark&quot;; except that it&#039;s not written with an actual laser, but simply embedded in the datastream!

To compare it with the picture from the last post, which showed a real, genuine GC disc. There are subtle differences (like the &quot;noise&quot; in the zeroed region).

So toxic is also right with his assumption that this will be the cliffhanger for the 3rd part of the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations toxic, you hit it right on the head!</p>
<p>In fact, the picture above shows:</p>
<p>Green trace: HF data coming from the laser pickup.<br />
Yellow trace: Recovered clock<br />
Blue trace: Recovered data</p>
<p>The data is from a Datel disc (&#8220;ultimate cheatcodes&#8221;) and shows the &#8220;laser mark&#8221;; except that it&#8217;s not written with an actual laser, but simply embedded in the datastream!</p>
<p>To compare it with the picture from the last post, which showed a real, genuine GC disc. There are subtle differences (like the &#8220;noise&#8221; in the zeroed region).</p>
<p>So toxic is also right with his assumption that this will be the cliffhanger for the 3rd part of the story.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scope pr0n by toxic</title>
		<link>http://debugmo.de/2010/07/scope-pr0n/comment-page-1/#comment-8293</link>
		<dc:creator>toxic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading again the post in question it&#039;s very likely that the traces are taken from on of the Datel discs, paving the way for the 3rd part of the story :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading again the post in question it&#8217;s very likely that the traces are taken from on of the Datel discs, paving the way for the 3rd part of the story :)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scope pr0n by backatyou</title>
		<link>http://debugmo.de/2010/07/scope-pr0n/comment-page-1/#comment-8288</link>
		<dc:creator>backatyou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d guess it&#039;s related to this post:
http://debugmo.de/2008/11/anatomy-of-an-optical-medium-authentication/

Just as toxic stated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d guess it&#8217;s related to this post:<br />
<a href="http://debugmo.de/2008/11/anatomy-of-an-optical-medium-authentication/" rel="nofollow">http://debugmo.de/2008/11/anatomy-of-an-optical-medium-authentication/</a></p>
<p>Just as toxic stated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scope pr0n by toxic</title>
		<link>http://debugmo.de/2010/07/scope-pr0n/comment-page-1/#comment-8276</link>
		<dc:creator>toxic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After a bit more thought, it is much more likely that the data is in fact analog+efm data from a GC disc, the breakthrough being that someone was able to create one in his kitchen? :) (and maybe burning the corresponding BCA using the same technique?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a bit more thought, it is much more likely that the data is in fact analog+efm data from a GC disc, the breakthrough being that someone was able to create one in his kitchen? :) (and maybe burning the corresponding BCA using the same technique?)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scope pr0n by toxic</title>
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		<dc:creator>toxic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll even try the bonus points: The data is unique because that piece takes a break from RLL (as you just said), and it&#039;s a breakthrough because it&#039;s related to PS3 disc protection?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll even try the bonus points: The data is unique because that piece takes a break from RLL (as you just said), and it&#8217;s a breakthrough because it&#8217;s related to PS3 disc protection?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Scope pr0n by toxic</title>
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		<dc:creator>toxic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll try: raw blueray data, analog + digitalized efm ?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Scope pr0n by tmbinc</title>
		<link>http://debugmo.de/2010/07/scope-pr0n/comment-page-1/#comment-8255</link>
		<dc:creator>tmbinc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 08:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice guesses so far! Some of them are closer, some of them not-so-close, but certainly valid based on the available material in this post. Thanks a lot already!

First, the information-density of the green trace is equal to that of the blue trace, as Tyler pointed out. Blue is in fact, as adam pointed out, the digitized, or &quot;sliced&quot;, version of the green one. Yellow is the recovered clock. 

adam is also right when comparing the green signal to an overdriven opamp output; however, no opamp characteristics are involved here. But the waveform distortion can be described as a kind of low-pass filter. In this case, the low-pass effect is caused by the physical proportions of two elements in the system.

You will likely notice the sparseness of the blue signal compared to the clock; that indicates that a special line code has been used, in this case a code to limit the minimum and maximum number of consecutive ones or zeros; this is called an RLL-code, a run-length limited code. The upper bound is set to allow a successful clock recovery, the lower bound to limit the high-frequency components that would get lost due to the &quot;low-pass filter&quot; characteristics. Because of the used code, there is 50% redundancy on top of the payload data. Quite a lot, but that&#039;s life, and also already a 1/17th improvement over the previous generation of this technology.

The long zero sequence, however, is a violation of the RLL rule. And while the data is NRZI encoded, so the data polarity doesn&#039;t matter, the violation will always be low, and never high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice guesses so far! Some of them are closer, some of them not-so-close, but certainly valid based on the available material in this post. Thanks a lot already!</p>
<p>First, the information-density of the green trace is equal to that of the blue trace, as Tyler pointed out. Blue is in fact, as adam pointed out, the digitized, or &#8220;sliced&#8221;, version of the green one. Yellow is the recovered clock. </p>
<p>adam is also right when comparing the green signal to an overdriven opamp output; however, no opamp characteristics are involved here. But the waveform distortion can be described as a kind of low-pass filter. In this case, the low-pass effect is caused by the physical proportions of two elements in the system.</p>
<p>You will likely notice the sparseness of the blue signal compared to the clock; that indicates that a special line code has been used, in this case a code to limit the minimum and maximum number of consecutive ones or zeros; this is called an RLL-code, a run-length limited code. The upper bound is set to allow a successful clock recovery, the lower bound to limit the high-frequency components that would get lost due to the &#8220;low-pass filter&#8221; characteristics. Because of the used code, there is 50% redundancy on top of the payload data. Quite a lot, but that&#8217;s life, and also already a 1/17th improvement over the previous generation of this technology.</p>
<p>The long zero sequence, however, is a violation of the RLL rule. And while the data is NRZI encoded, so the data polarity doesn&#8217;t matter, the violation will always be low, and never high.</p>
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