Comments on: Read your DVDs the RAW way… http://debugmo.de/2007/07/read-your-dvds-the-raw-way/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=read-your-dvds-the-raw-way Projects, hardware fun and everything between it. Mon, 09 Aug 2010 15:08:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: denver http://debugmo.de/2007/07/read-your-dvds-the-raw-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7813 denver Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:38:02 +0000 http://x226.org/?p=17#comment-7813 Hi I found this page after hours of google searching and hopefully someone here have a solution to my problem. I would like to use the optical reader in my home DVD player and somehow wire it for use in my PC. The readers in home players appear to be much more stable and robust than the ones sold for PC use. Any ideas or examples would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys Hi

I found this page after hours of google searching and hopefully someone here have a solution to my problem. I would like to use the optical reader in my home DVD player and somehow wire it for use in my PC. The readers in home players appear to be much more stable and robust than the ones sold for PC use.

Any ideas or examples would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks guys

]]> By: Taiwo http://debugmo.de/2007/07/read-your-dvds-the-raw-way/comment-page-1/#comment-7636 Taiwo Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:04:52 +0000 http://x226.org/?p=17#comment-7636 HELP My name is Taiwo, I burned a DVD with drag and drop on vista i.e backing up data on the dvd and after reinstallation, when I inserted the DVD it shows blank but when checked with ROXIO it shows the name I used to name it, the used space and the remainig space, Please help. HELP My name is Taiwo, I burned a DVD with drag and drop on vista i.e backing up data on the dvd and after reinstallation, when I inserted the DVD it shows blank but when checked with ROXIO it shows the name I used to name it, the used space and the remainig space, Please help.

]]> By: debugmo.de » Anatomy of an Optical Medium Authentication (Part 1) http://debugmo.de/2007/07/read-your-dvds-the-raw-way/comment-page-1/#comment-2226 debugmo.de » Anatomy of an Optical Medium Authentication (Part 1) Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:27:51 +0000 http://x226.org/?p=17#comment-2226 [...] interested in optical storage technology since a long time ([3]), and one of the better understood systems is the Gamecube optical drive. Quite unique is the [...] [...] interested in optical storage technology since a long time ([3]), and one of the better understood systems is the Gamecube optical drive. Quite unique is the [...]

]]> By: dcrackel http://debugmo.de/2007/07/read-your-dvds-the-raw-way/comment-page-1/#comment-2194 dcrackel Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:14:14 +0000 http://x226.org/?p=17#comment-2194 what would you need to do theoretically to do the same thing on a disk with single chip? Is a firmware mod the only solution? thx what would you need to do theoretically to do the same thing on a disk with single chip? Is a firmware mod the only solution?

thx

]]> By: robert http://debugmo.de/2007/07/read-your-dvds-the-raw-way/comment-page-1/#comment-117 robert Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:50:34 +0000 http://x226.org/?p=17#comment-117 Here's pictures of Sony VGP-XL1B experiment at this link. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/printthread.php?t=692413&page=6&pp=30 Turns out, it ports IDE to Firewire, can branch USB I/O, maybe ethernet too. I'm going there. Nobody rogered up to previous request anyway, retracting it now that this has "skinny". Here’s pictures of Sony VGP-XL1B experiment at this link.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/printthread.php?t=692413&page=6&pp=30

Turns out, it ports IDE to Firewire, can branch USB I/O, maybe ethernet too.

I’m going there.

Nobody rogered up to previous request anyway, retracting it now that this has “skinny”.

]]> By: Read every bit on a DVD | Start Tech News http://debugmo.de/2007/07/read-your-dvds-the-raw-way/comment-page-1/#comment-77 Read every bit on a DVD | Start Tech News Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:45:08 +0000 http://x226.org/?p=17#comment-77 [...] you are curious about reading all the bits on a DVD, [tmbinc] has devised a hardware hack that uses a Pioneer DVD drive with leads soldered onto it and a Cypress FX2 microcontroller board [...] [...] you are curious about reading all the bits on a DVD, [tmbinc] has devised a hardware hack that uses a Pioneer DVD drive with leads soldered onto it and a Cypress FX2 microcontroller board [...]

]]> By: tmbinc http://debugmo.de/2007/07/read-your-dvds-the-raw-way/comment-page-1/#comment-47 tmbinc Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:07:01 +0000 http://x226.org/?p=17#comment-47 Well it could be used for that in the same way a normal DVD drive can be used. There are tools to do "raw" dumps (=2064 bytes/sector, which is all you need to get the content of GC/Wii games) in a much more efficient way. 360 games don't even require raw dumps, just a minimal amount of hacking to read after the initial defined "leadout". So my hardware would be a total overkill to archieve the goal of just reading the *data*. The streamed data has approx. 2 times the size of the payload, for example, and the manual postprocessing of a full DVD will takes ages. What this setup can be used for is to *understand* the copy protection elements (which has nothing to do with getting the payload). In fact I don't know anything about the 360 or Wii copy protection, I was interested if those published patents for the Gamecube protection match what's on disc. However I haven't come that far yet. Still, understanding a copy protection is far away from being able to replicate it. For example on PS1, it has been since years how the SCEx-pattern is encoded, but creating discs with that pattern is still not possible for humans. I expect modern copy protections to be far more advanced, and use techniques like public key cryptography to make it "cryptographically secure". So replicating discs is definitely not my goal. Just for reference: No real copy protection is based on just hiding things, or writing mis-encoded "bad" sectors. Believe me, those engineers (mostly ;) know what they are doing. So far, no console disc copy protection was really hacked. Sometimes, the reading device could be modified (PS1,PS2,Xbox 360, Gamecube), sometimes a backdoor could be used (Dreamcast) or the console's software could be changed (Xbox). But so far the media itself was always secure. Well it could be used for that in the same way a normal DVD drive can be used. There are tools to do “raw” dumps (=2064 bytes/sector, which is all you need to get the content of GC/Wii games) in a much more efficient way. 360 games don’t even require raw dumps, just a minimal amount of hacking to read after the initial defined “leadout”. So my hardware would be a total overkill to archieve the goal of just reading the *data*. The streamed data has approx. 2 times the size of the payload, for example, and the manual postprocessing of a full DVD will takes ages.

What this setup can be used for is to *understand* the copy protection elements (which has nothing to do with getting the payload). In fact I don’t know anything about the 360 or Wii copy protection, I was interested if those published patents for the Gamecube protection match what’s on disc. However I haven’t come that far yet. Still, understanding a copy protection is far away from being able to replicate it. For example on PS1, it has been since years how the SCEx-pattern is encoded, but creating discs with that pattern is still not possible for humans. I expect modern copy protections to be far more advanced, and use techniques like public key cryptography to make it “cryptographically secure”. So replicating discs is definitely not my goal.

Just for reference: No real copy protection is based on just hiding things, or writing mis-encoded “bad” sectors. Believe me, those engineers (mostly ;) know what they are doing. So far, no console disc copy protection was really hacked. Sometimes, the reading device could be modified (PS1,PS2,Xbox 360, Gamecube), sometimes a backdoor could be used (Dreamcast) or the console’s software could be changed (Xbox). But so far the media itself was always secure.

]]> By: Sam http://debugmo.de/2007/07/read-your-dvds-the-raw-way/comment-page-1/#comment-46 Sam Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:22:56 +0000 http://x226.org/?p=17#comment-46 Correct me if I'm mistaken, but can this be used to pirate 360,WII,PS3 Games? Correct me if I’m mistaken, but can this be used to pirate 360,WII,PS3 Games?

]]> By: robert http://debugmo.de/2007/07/read-your-dvds-the-raw-way/comment-page-1/#comment-41 robert Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:36:45 +0000 http://x226.org/?p=17#comment-41 Well, at least these guys have the service manual for the DVP-CX850 Here's the links, main page and three file download, one at a time. http://www.eserviceinfo.com/downloadsm/9356/Sony_DVP-CX850D.html http://www.eserviceinfo.com/download.php?fileid=9356 http://www.eserviceinfo.com/download.php?fileid=9357 http://www.eserviceinfo.com/download.php?fileid=9358 Well, at least these guys have the service manual for the DVP-CX850

Here’s the links, main page and three file download, one at a time.

http://www.eserviceinfo.com/downloadsm/9356/Sony_DVP-CX850D.html

http://www.eserviceinfo.com/download.php?fileid=9356

http://www.eserviceinfo.com/download.php?fileid=9357

http://www.eserviceinfo.com/download.php?fileid=9358

]]> By: robert http://debugmo.de/2007/07/read-your-dvds-the-raw-way/comment-page-1/#comment-40 robert Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:09:24 +0000 http://x226.org/?p=17#comment-40 I was considering something like this for dvd/cd changers, so I've taken some notes. Some user manuals are available free from this link. http://www.eserviceinfo.com/ I would like to purchase a DVP-CX* solution for USB data output, if you would be so motivated. Figured out the IR - S-link, AII link connection for controls, but data output needs some work. I was considering something like this for dvd/cd changers, so I’ve taken some notes. Some user manuals are available free from this link.

http://www.eserviceinfo.com/

I would like to purchase a DVP-CX* solution for USB data output, if you would be so motivated.

Figured out the IR – S-link, AII link connection for controls, but data output needs some work.

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